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PostPosted: February 3rd, 2011, 9:35 pm 
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Hi everyone!

Since apparently there are a few things here and there that people don't particularly like, I'd just like to remind everyone that the staff aren't omniscient and would really appreciate it if you PMed us about any issues you're having on the forums!

Here is a thread to basically serve the same purpose where all the staff can peek in and look, too!

If your complaint is about another forum member, however, please keep it to PMs with staffers. =) That way we can avoid all the nastiness.

The forum admins are visible if you click "The team" in the upper left corner; the main site is currently editable by Bimblesnaff and Mints while the rest of us are waiting on access.

edit: and no, nobody will jump down your throat for having a complaint. ;) we like to hear it, that way we can make things better.

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PostPosted: December 20th, 2011, 3:54 am 
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Rather tricky sort of situation: I have a complaint, and it's the first complaint I've wanted to make, but it's about your moderators. Not really sure how to approach this or who to approach this with.

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PostPosted: December 20th, 2011, 4:00 am 
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I know what he's talking about actually. Or rather, I've got a good idea. In any case, you just oughta direct your attention to an Admin, go above the mods heads so to speak.

You're bold and I love that about you. Also, I didn't even know this thread was here. I should step out of the Cafe more often.

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PostPosted: December 20th, 2011, 2:16 pm 
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glod, diskmaster, and amika are the most active admins on this site. They review the situation well and don't just jump in and slap wrists, which has happened in the past.

I'd think you might be taking things a bit too seriously, but I'm also a mod and a close irl friend of the mod you speak of, so I probably don't quite have a say in this.

Nevertheless, it'll still be fine to put the full complaint on here, or PMing it to another mod/admin.

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PostPosted: December 20th, 2011, 6:06 pm 
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I'd think you might be taking things a bit too seriously
No. This complaint has been building up for a while, and would've been side-stepped completely if it weren't for the fact that I can't filter out moderators. In light of that, I'd ask that there be some way to separate moderators from when they're speaking as moderators and when they're speaking as users, so blocking can be an option, or that moderators watch their behavior on the forum.

Honestly I'm not surprised to hear you two are good friends, because far too often that's what this forum feels like: a private forum for a small group of friends. You think people are responding to this "too seriously" because you can't see outside the lens of your private brand of humor; so of course, when someone swings in and says "dude not cool", you just don't get it.

It's cool that you all are close friends, but there are other people outside your group on this forum, too. Would it be so hard to try to make it a little more friendlier to people who may not agree with you on something as frivolous as a cartoon and a video game? Especially since you're moderators and we don't have the option to block you.

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PostPosted: December 24th, 2011, 7:29 pm 
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Well, she hit the nail on the head.

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PostPosted: December 24th, 2011, 9:14 pm 
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In light of that, I'd ask that there be some way to separate moderators from when they're speaking as moderators and when they're speaking as users, so blocking can be an option, or that moderators watch their behavior on the forum.
Is blocking even an option period?

Anyway, the solution to separating mods speaking their minds and mods acting as mods is simple: common sense. Any time I start dealing with site/forum/chat/wherever policy, I am wearing my mod hat (I may also make explicit reference to my role or the associated hat). Otherwise, I'm just acting at a normal user. This is true for any mod, basically.

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PostPosted: December 24th, 2011, 9:39 pm 
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I'm pretty sure it's better to have mod close instead of at each other's throats, causing all sorts of issues about.
I don't know what to say honestly, but I'm not sure how much I can say considering I don't do much aside from Oekaki board moderation.
Though, I'm relatively close with most of the staff and all I can really suggest is don't be afraid to speak up, we're rather open-minded about these issues, more so than I have seen on other forums which are even more active than here.
I am not 100% sure how to handle the issue since I do not know what is going on exactly, but those are my two cents.

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PostPosted: December 25th, 2011, 1:11 am 
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In light of that, I'd ask that there be some way to separate moderators from when they're speaking as moderators and when they're speaking as users, so blocking can be an option, or that moderators watch their behavior on the forum.
Is blocking even an option period?

Anyway, the solution to separating mods speaking their minds and mods acting as mods is simple: common sense. Any time I start dealing with site/forum/chat/wherever policy, I am wearing my mod hat (I may also make explicit reference to my role or the associated hat). Otherwise, I'm just acting at a normal user. This is true for any mod, basically.
And as for "blocking", add said user as a "Foe".


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PostPosted: December 25th, 2011, 4:00 am 
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Okay, I figured that might be the case, but I've never considered anyone Foe enough to deserve that, haha.

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Kirby's return to dreamland and kirby mass attack still haven't been added to the favorite kirby game thing and the one on the bottom isn't a real kirby game.

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Kirby's return to dreamland and kirby mass attack still haven't been added to the favorite kirby game thing and the one on the bottom isn't a real kirby game.
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PostPosted: December 28th, 2011, 12:38 am 
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Still the other two.

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PostPosted: December 28th, 2011, 12:42 am 
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PostPosted: December 28th, 2011, 8:01 pm 
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I'm pretty sure it's better to have mod close instead of at each other's throats, causing all sorts of issues about.
I don't know what to say honestly, but I'm not sure how much I can say considering I don't do much aside from Oekaki board moderation.
Though, I'm relatively close with most of the staff and all I can really suggest is don't be afraid to speak up, we're rather open-minded about these issues, more so than I have seen on other forums which are even more active than here.
I am not 100% sure how to handle the issue since I do not know what is going on exactly, but those are my two cents.
Things were growing tense in one of the Fountain of Dreams threads, partly as a result of a moderator's behavior. He made comments that some found offensive and/or arrogant/unwelcoming. I was personally frustrated by it. I didn't want, on this forum, to deal with the hostility Kirby fans have against games or spin-offs that don't match their idea of a "true" Kirby game, and I didn't like being lumped in with a group of people whose reasons for enjoying something could be summed up (inaccurately) by one person alone. I figured it would be easier if I blocked that user so that I didn't have to read those comments--only to find out I couldn't, because he was a moderator.

That's what happened from my end, essentially. I was frustrated that some of the moderators were making this place unwelcoming for people who disagreed with them about certain facets of the franchise, and that there was nothing those people could do to make the experience of posting here easier for them, because they couldn't block a mod. Which rose another issue: the fact that mods were making this place unwelcoming. That's where the "too close" issue comes into play, since humor was part of the problem. Not everyone on this forum has the same sense of humor; but if some of the most active moderators are all close and share that sense of humor, it's going to be hard for them to objectively tell when that humor causes an issue for other forum members. That aside, if a visible portion of the moderators are all co-signing each other's in-jokes and opinions, it's going to look like a formidable clique to users who aren't buddy-buddy with them. Speaking for myself, based on the opinions and "jokes" thrown around in that thread, I felt highly uncomfortable posting in a forum supposedly open to all Kirby fans, but really only open for people who had certain opinions of the franchise. I've had some correspondence over PM that told me that wasn't true, but I can't deny that that's still the impression some people would get.

In light of the discussions I've had since my initial complaint, I'd say my request is this: please be aware that not everyone on this forum is in on the joke, and don't expect them to be. Nobody has to like every aspect of the franchise, but blithely claiming which games do and don't count as "real" Kirby games and accrediting attributes to an entire group of fans without considering that that group may be far more diverse than you imply, is rude coming from any user--but it's just plain bad for the site and the community coming from a moderator. It goes a long way in destroying the trust users should have for the administrative staff. How can one be sure that attitude isn't sanctioned by everyone? Who can a user turn to if they feel insulted by a staff member? And can they speak their minds in that case, or do they have to keep quiet in fear of being reprimanded?

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PostPosted: December 29th, 2011, 5:27 pm 
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It sounds like you were implying that a mod was literally flaming, and that's terrible, like a cop doing a robbery. :aaa:

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PostPosted: December 29th, 2011, 8:31 pm 
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Also, fyi, if a mod ever says or does anything you find to be unmodly, you can, I believe, report their posts, as well as PM another mod.

Seriously, if any of us get out of hand, I'd like to hear about it. Mamthew's a bro, sure, but he's a bro I'll punch if he's being a jerk. And I expect my coworkers to do the same to me if I act like a big dumb butt, too.

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