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PostPosted: July 9th, 2017, 3:53 pm 
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I agree. It's pretty interesting watching the online world change. Some of it great (ubiquity of knowledge), some of it painful (the encroachment of corporate imposition) , some of it downright horrible (Youtube comment sections!). :P

A hub page with relevant links to the places you mention might be a better way of handling communities in future.
One or two high profile sites so that newcomers can find them easily which then give 'maps' to other places of interest.

I feel whatever the web is at the moment (3.0?) it's still in a state of flux and growth. Still kind of primordial. It'll be interesting to see where things are in, say, another ten years...

@Keeby: This will be my one response to you regarding the state of this forum and your plans of whinging until people leave here to join you in your vision of the future. I don't want to get involved in negativity. Goodness knows, there's enough of that in the world already.

You need to take a deep breath before posting. Be more positive and people will (eventually) respond positively. If not, then it's their loss and they have to live with that negative way of being Keep going the way you are and your spiral of frustration will only get tighter until you quit here in a pique of rage. It'll only end up hurting you and this, however small, community you purport to care for.

Please, try to make your next post happy (are you enjoying Blowout Blast? Are you excited for the upcoming games? Do you like any of the tons of toys and goodies that are being produced this year? Do you like Luv's artwork? Do you have any to share yourself?). There are lots of things in Dream Land to be happy about. :)

Anyway, off topic but I'm curious, does anyone know what's happening with Meta Naito? Has anyone taken up the offer of running the place?

Also, do you guys (Keeby, Luv or anyone else) visit the Kirby sub-Reddit? My name's Hipnotic Rogue over there if you want to say hiya. It's surprisingly active just now and the vibe's quite playful. I love what happens when someone makes a post containing the word POYO! :)

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PostPosted: July 9th, 2017, 4:37 pm 
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I'll have to check out the subreddit. I don't really use Reddit, but now's a good of time as any to give it a try.

I'm not sure about Meta Naito, though they probably forgot about this place due to inactivity. I'd personally love to take on a role to help KRR but I'm not sure that I'm the right person for the job. Nor do I know who to even contact about it (or how to sound sincere and not annoying to said administrator).

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The Internet has changed a lot since I started venturing it over ten years ago; you used to be able to find all sorts of neat fan and personal websites, and most of them had some sort of forum as well. Now it's all about these social media things that I can't fathom why anyone would put so much time and effort into (granted, there were some social media sites back then too (remember MySpace?), but its nowhere near like how it is today).

I don't really do reddit, or a lot of modern community things people use today in general (I'll be among the first to tell you how little I care for Discord). I think I'm falling into this mentality that I'm just getting too old to follow online communities for the things I like, and honestly, I lurked around some communities that were just downright awful and toxic.

According to the front page of Meta Naito, Meta Naito is closing down by the end of the year, but the admin seemed to be welling to either hand over the keys of Meta Naito to anyone with some knowledge of HTML/PHP or to give their content to an established website that has interest in their content. If I had better knowledge of HTML and PHP, I might've considered reaching out, but my HTML is pretty mediocre at best, and I don't know the first thing of PHP, so I'll have to pass on it.
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A hub page with relevant links to the places you mention might be a better way of handling communities in future.
One or two high profile sites so that newcomers can find them easily which then give 'maps' to other places of interest.
That kind of sounds like web rings, but now I'm definitely dating myself for even mentioning those.

EDIT: Forgot to mention this earlier, but luvkirby4ever, if you were interested in helping KRR out, you should try emailing Bimblesnaff, he seems to be the one running KRR at this time. Not sure how likely he'll consider it, but if you're serious about it, may as well try it.

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*sigh* It seems like people have yet to understand me...

I am up for hope and positivity, but not when it's forced. I was just trying to tell the truth, and you pushed me back.

(I also never got Kirby's recent games, since I feel like Kirby has been going down in terms of quality lately, but the new game coming out next year on the Nintendo Switch seems like a return to very good Kirby games(such as RtDL).

See? I was BOTH honest AND positive. Now, are you guys happy?)

I never knew that Meta Naito was closing, though. Thanks for letting me know.

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...I was BOTH honest AND positive. Now, are you guys happy?)
I am. :) :grin:
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...I never knew that Meta Naito was closing, though. Thanks for letting me know.
No worries. I was just wondering if anyone had picked up the reigns. Seems like a bit of a waste to let it fall by the wayside but, like the others here, I have no PHP experience. Still, maybe someone'll pop up.

@Soniti254: Heh, yeah, I remember webrings. They had their uses. Maybe they will make a come back in some form or other. Some of my older interests still uses hub pages ie/

http://roguebase.net/

Something like that but a bit more inviting wouldn't be a bad thing.

I'm with you with regard to the modern, transient social media stuff. Kinda sums up today's ADD mentality... always looking around for the next shiny thing to grab their attention! :P

@luvkirby4ever: Yeah, I'm not really a fan of Reddit but it seems to be the most rooted when it comes to social interaction in the modern web (and even then, they still automatically archive posts at 6 months old...).

Since when did permanence become old fashioned!?

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I was just wondering if anyone had picked up the reigns. Seems like a bit of a waste to let it fall by the wayside but, like the others here, I have no PHP experience. Still, maybe someone'll pop up.
I would imagine, if anyone took up on the offer and Meta Naito accepted, that there would be some kind of announcement. Then again, given the inactivity at Meta Naito to begin with, doesn't seem like all that many people are even aware of the situation over there. Just goes to show that fan and personal sites just really aren't a thing nowadays, like my initial post in this thread states.
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I'm with you with regard to the modern, transient social media stuff. Kinda sums up today's ADD mentality... always looking around for the next shiny thing to grab their attention! :P
I think that about sums up this generation pretty well. Honestly, I don't even understand what the point to most of those social media sites are; the only one that kind of makes sense to me is Facebook; but I really don't understand why so many people care about Twitter (you can only basically write a sentence or two per post, making any posts you write lack any real context and are just pointless in general), Snapchat, or whatever else people use. People will always flock to whatever the latest popular thing is, regardless of how shallow it actually is.
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@luvkirby4ever: Yeah, I'm not really a fan of Reddit but it seems to be the most rooted when it comes to social interaction in the modern web (and even then, they still automatically archive posts at 6 months old...).

Since when did permanence become old fashioned!?
I looked at reddit before and it's another one I don't really understand the appeal of it; I really don't like the style on there and there's also no real personification on accounts from what I see, so every post basically looks the same and I just don't understand why people would rather have that than forums like these.

Since denizens of the Internet got this idea that anything older than half a year is "ancient". :P

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Yeah, I don't really like any of the new "fancy" social media sites and whatnot(except for maybe Twitter). I much prefer forums.

It seems like people just don't care about things being archived neatly via forums, anymore, which is such a shame.

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Yeah, the personalisation aspect of a proper forum is probably what makes it feel more like a real place for me. On Reddit some subs allow you to have 'flair'. What a development in online personal relations! :P Really, they're no better than the smiley I just used...

Unfortunately, Reddit is the closest the modern internet seems to accept to a proper forum.

You know what? I take back what I said earlier about me getting old and therefore not 'getting' the newer social media. To make an analogy (like I haven't already in this thread!) the new stuff is like Post-Its (Twitter) and tabloid magazines (Reddit). Ye olde style forums are like books and journals - much more sophisticated and aimed at the more erudite participant. :P

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Yes, I am not the type for "social media"(unless YouTube counts as such???).

Me and some others will be working on Another Dimension for a while. We're hoping to make it the next big Kirby forum, or at least have up to date info and guides... heh...

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A lot of stuff to go through, and I'm years late to this party, I know. If anyone stops by after one of the many resurrections, at least they can have some answers -- either on this forum or the Way Back Machine or whatevs.

First off, cheers, Soniti254. It warms my black heart to know that some people were paying attention. Especially back in the day, it felt so hopeless trying to fix this site when most everyone was railing against me for... reasons?
Looking back now, it seems pretty apparent that their little chat group was quite the echo chamber. Things the old new old staff said there just were not reflexive of reality -- including things they themselves wrote in their own Staff forum. Current Year Mints would like to refer to this phenomenon as "Blue Man Bad".

As for who owns this site, it is still Kindar. Bagel is still keeping the lights on. I don't know if he knows he is still paying for it.

This is one of the big issues with KRR; it can disappear at any time, beyond any of our control. I don't think Bagel will ever let it go as long as Kindar wants it to stick around, but even that doesn't matter.
This place was down for most of the year because of the host. Turns out, it was a problem that could be fixed.
It might not be next time.

See, neither Bimblesnaff nor I have FTP access to this site. Remember that my main function here was adding a backend so a staff (that never materialized) could more easily manage this place; of course I had a way to edit pages still.
However, we are still severely limited as to what we can do. Particularly: upload size.

There is also a question of how much more time we want to spend maintaining this site, especially given that it could disappear at any time. I added back the Passport system (which the old new old staff demanded I remove) mostly as a troll.
It is weird that I care more about keeping this place chugging along, even if it is just for archival purposes -- especially considering that I have absolutely no nostalgia or allegiance to this place. I just think the fans deserve better, even if it is just a handful every blue moon who thinks "Oh yeah, I remember that place."

See, as long as some PHP still functions on this site, I can keep KRR on life support. And the htaccess files, I guess. If something goes wrong there or a bunk htaccess file gets uploaded, we're screwed, because no one will have any way to recover this site.
Well, I suppose Kindar would, but, y'know...

I think this thread exemplifies a lot of the issues KRR has faced, especially towards the end: people want to help, but people don't know what they can do to help. This is better than what some of those late-term staffers did, which was have nothing to contribute and then be an active detriment to the site, but I digress.

Basic HTML isn't hard, and PHP isn't necessary. That was the point of me automating everything on the backend. As I often mention, Bimblesnaff got his start here curating the splash page. You don't really have to do a lot to do something.
The big issue is that automating something new with the Passport (or even some of the old things that I've seemed to have lost the files for) would require work. I'm not saying it would necessarily be a lot of work, but is it really worth it if it could all disappear?

I mean, almost ten years ago, it all disappeared, and it was through no bug or a funder shutting off the lights. Putting all of the old stuff back in place wasn't any new development, so it wasn't a real concern about wasting time. (The Passport was also closing yet another security hole by getting rid of CuteNews.)

As far as fansites go: Serebii.net. That place still exists, and I actually use it on occasion, too, since it has a pretty good raid den map for SwSh.


And clearly, I don't much care about these forums. I was never a big KRR forums fan, even back in 2007. I think I actually had an account before that. Not shaming anyone for liking the forums, but these (or some of the blokes) were not exactly my bag.

Forums can be good. They are entirely dependent on their patrons. I much prefer forums to the single-stream salt-mine that is Reddit.

Even then, I'm not banning Keeby. It takes a lot for me to ban someone on a platform. Anyone who had a problem with him could have easily blocked him.

Wouldn't mind having some more moderators. That is a zero effort thing I can do to keep this place chugging a little longer. The problem isn't the spambots so much as it is old accounts with easy passwords being compromised.


But other than a gag now and then, I can't see myself doing more than just fixing this place whenever it breaks. It is depressing how many hours I sank into this KRR, setting up for great things, for not even no return, but negative return.


And 'Snaff and I are actually older than you gave us credit for -- mid-thirties at the time of this thread's highest activity. Neither of us have any family to speak of, but we do have other hobbies.

Mostly, tho', we have jobs. And I've been using KRR as an excuse not to do my job as much as I really should these past few days. Guess I should stop procrastinating.

It was a fun trip down memory lane. Beat the Storybook again. It's still relevant.

I really wish I had some sort of way to back up this place should the worst ever happen.



There was definitely more good than not here. Shame the not won.

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A lot of stuff to go through, and I'm years late to this party, I know. If anyone stops by after one of the many resurrections, at least they can have some answers -- either on this forum or the Way Back Machine or whatevs.

First off, cheers, Soniti254. It warms my black heart to know that some people were paying attention. Especially back in the day, it felt so hopeless trying to fix this site when most everyone was railing against me for... reasons?
Looking back now, it seems pretty apparent that their little chat group was quite the echo chamber. Things the old new old staff said there just were not reflexive of reality -- including things they themselves wrote in their own Staff forum. Current Year Mints would like to refer to this phenomenon as "Blue Man Bad".

As for who owns this site, it is still Kindar. Bagel is still keeping the lights on. I don't know if he knows he is still paying for it.

This is one of the big issues with KRR; it can disappear at any time, beyond any of our control. I don't think Bagel will ever let it go as long as Kindar wants it to stick around, but even that doesn't matter.
This place was down for most of the year because of the host. Turns out, it was a problem that could be fixed.
It might not be next time.

See, neither Bimblesnaff nor I have FTP access to this site. Remember that my main function here was adding a backend so a staff (that never materialized) could more easily manage this place; of course I had a way to edit pages still.
However, we are still severely limited as to what we can do. Particularly: upload size.

There is also a question of how much more time we want to spend maintaining this site, especially given that it could disappear at any time. I added back the Passport system (which the old new old staff demanded I remove) mostly as a troll.
It is weird that I care more about keeping this place chugging along, even if it is just for archival purposes -- especially considering that I have absolutely no nostalgia or allegiance to this place. I just think the fans deserve better, even if it is just a handful every blue moon who thinks "Oh yeah, I remember that place."

See, as long as some PHP still functions on this site, I can keep KRR on life support. And the htaccess files, I guess. If something goes wrong there or a bunk htaccess file gets uploaded, we're screwed, because no one will have any way to recover this site.
Well, I suppose Kindar would, but, y'know...

I think this thread exemplifies a lot of the issues KRR has faced, especially towards the end: people want to help, but people don't know what they can do to help. This is better than what some of those late-term staffers did, which was have nothing to contribute and then be an active detriment to the site, but I digress.

Basic HTML isn't hard, and PHP isn't necessary. That was the point of me automating everything on the backend. As I often mention, Bimblesnaff got his start here curating the splash page. You don't really have to do a lot to do something.
The big issue is that automating something new with the Passport (or even some of the old things that I've seemed to have lost the files for) would require work. I'm not saying it would necessarily be a lot of work, but is it really worth it if it could all disappear?

I mean, almost ten years ago, it all disappeared, and it was through no bug or a funder shutting off the lights. Putting all of the old stuff back in place wasn't any new development, so it wasn't a real concern about wasting time. (The Passport was also closing yet another security hole by getting rid of CuteNews.)

As far as fansites go: Serebii.net. That place still exists, and I actually use it on occasion, too, since it has a pretty good raid den map for SwSh.


And clearly, I don't much care about these forums. I was never a big KRR forums fan, even back in 2007. I think I actually had an account before that. Not shaming anyone for liking the forums, but these (or some of the blokes) were not exactly my bag.

Forums can be good. They are entirely dependent on their patrons. I much prefer forums to the single-stream salt-mine that is Reddit.

Even then, I'm not banning Keeby. It takes a lot for me to ban someone on a platform. Anyone who had a problem with him could have easily blocked him.

Wouldn't mind having some more moderators. That is a zero effort thing I can do to keep this place chugging a little longer. The problem isn't the spambots so much as it is old accounts with easy passwords being compromised.


But other than a gag now and then, I can't see myself doing more than just fixing this place whenever it breaks. It is depressing how many hours I sank into this KRR, setting up for great things, for not even no return, but negative return.


And 'Snaff and I are actually older than you gave us credit for -- mid-thirties at the time of this thread's highest activity. Neither of us have any family to speak of, but we do have other hobbies.

Mostly, tho', we have jobs. And I've been using KRR as an excuse not to do my job as much as I really should these past few days. Guess I should stop procrastinating.

It was a fun trip down memory lane. Beat the Storybook again. It's still relevant.

I really wish I had some sort of way to back up this place should the worst ever happen.



There was definitely more good than not here. Shame the not won.

Judging from recent posts he's made on facebook, I'm pretty sure Bagel's aware of what you've been up to. To be honest, I feel they should officially just hand control of managing the site over to you and your brother, while they still maintain ownership. If they did that, or even worked with you on that, the site could be updated and modernized to be a bit more relevant. I think people still use KRR as a database of sorts. My nostalgia for this place doesn't exist anymore.

I almost can't see myself wanting to be a mod or staff anymore, too many bad memories. Some of those experiences were so traumatic for me I have some PTSD and bitter grudges in regards to the past staff. There's also the fact that I'm less willing to put up with things than I was back in the day.

That said, I think the only thing I really miss is the sense of community. I've been a drifter in the decade since. I don't use really forums anymore, social media and thing like discord have made them obsolete to me.

I don't really have much more to say. Honestly I just popped in on a whim tonight because I was thinking of you and your brother.


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Wow... There’s a lot to take in here.

Not sure what to say here. But your point about people wanting to help but not sure how/not being able to really hit home.

As for me... I’m almost 18 now. A lot (but certainly not even close to all) of my viewpoints differ from when I was in my early teens. Explaining things is another can of worms that’s too deep to go into right now.

Don’t really know what to say, since it’s difficult for me to respond to a post that’s a large amount of paragraphs long. Sorry.

Just know that several people consider this place a second home.

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